Sea Breeze

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  Who told the first lie?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

  god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

  in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

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  Sea Breeze

  First of all, neither Adam nor Eve were innocent. They were guilty as sin. So, they died, in accordance with the Law.
  
  Adam and Eve's pitiful attempt at covering their sin was by sewing fig leaves together. Our attempts at covering our sins through our own works are just as insufficient and pitiful as well. God had mercy on them and provided an appropriate covering (animal skins) that required the shedding of Blood, which forshadowwed the day when God would become a man and shed his own blood, in their stead but not theirs only; but for all who wanted it.

  Sin and death entered the world because a decision was made NOT to believe God. When God offered the whole world the opportunity to allow him to pay your sin debt in your stead, he recreated the opportunity Eve had to choose whether or not to believe God.
  
  Adam and Eve are definitely saved. They accepted the blood covering God offered and likely believed God thereafter, especially the prophecy in Gen. 3: 15.
  
  Everyone has the choice Eve had. Eve initially didn't believe God. Later, I'm quite sure she changed her mind and decided it was better to believe God. Which is why I look forward to meeting her.
  
  It just makes sense to believe God, and live. Sin is not just wrong. It is stupid and illogical.
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  Who told the first lie?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

  god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

  in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

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  Sea Breeze

  Gen 3

  “And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die",

  God hath said, "Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die".

  
  

  It's clear: Satan lied, they died.
  
  
  
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  August WT: DF'ing renamed "Removed." AKA: GB re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so: the mystery has been clarified as to more "new light" / clarifications of decades old doctrine and procedure.

  august watchtower has finally been leaked.

  disfellowshipping?

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  Sea Breeze

  WT theology has always been a shell game of symbolic interpretation. They are just expanding the grift to include policy as well.

  The question is whether or not educated lawmakers will continue to waste taxpayer money on the scam. Or, will they see that the suicides, mental health costs, addiction recovery costs and lost income from formerly productive citizens are not likely to change?

  
  
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  Big News: August English Watchtower released on servers

  by ukpimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  big news.

  just in from a friend who is fading.. disfellowshipping will no longer be a term used by jws.

  study article 35, paragraph 4 footnote says this:.

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  Sea Breeze

  We will never abandon the disfellowshipping practice.

  
  

  But we will blow out your future by removing you from the congregation and from your loved ones.
  
  Ok got it.
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  JW s were here today with convention invite

  by enoughisenough in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i thought i would tell this story: 2 gals and a guy came by with invitation to convention.

  i am in the yard.

  the gals get out and are wearing pants.

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  Sea Breeze

  You brought out 2-3 very logical points, planted some seeds, and let them know there are people out there that are not JW's that do care about truth and authenticity. I'd call that a home run.
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  Deep study

  by road to nowhere in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wifes friend had to go home to deep study the sunday article.

  does that mean not skimming headings?

  the last deep thing i remember was babylon book and it was a perfect fit except none of it came true.

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  Sea Breeze

  I have taught a course on Revelation in church after spending a year studying it with my Phd. friend who also went to Bible school. Most of Revelation is literal except where it clearly says it's not.
  
  I had gone through the WT Rev. book 3 times in the 80's and early 90's. So, I can really compare the two models - literal vs. symbolic. I can say unreservedly that what the WT printed on Revelation is the most outlandish, disconjointed pile of horse manure I've ever seen.... and I've seen a lot.
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  What is that?

  by Achille in

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  WT is mocking the people stuck in this cult printing stuff like this. No way that is an accident.
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  The Synagogue of Satan

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the governing body claims to be the ruling part of the 144k jews in revelation.

  wt leaders wiped out 4-5 generations of my family, and nearly took me out as well.

  i will see this injustice settled however long it takes.

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  Sea Breeze

  It’s is in an old Buffalo Springfield song I think.
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  An EASY question for JW's to start with!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  (acts 9:15, 16) but the lord said to him: “go!

  (see acts 11:26).

  (acts 5:40) .

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  Sea Breeze

  TonusOH,

  During the Millenium Reign people from all nations will visit Jerusalem. There will always be nation/ethenic groups.
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  Assembly Attendence

  by Riley in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am in western canada.

  we use to have our assembly in saskatoon.

  our assembly has moved to medicine hat.

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  Sea Breeze

  "Where Is Everybody!"

  Maybe they are disfellowshipping themselves out of existence.